I want to thank Doug Eigsti who tediously transcribed my 2015 debate with Thomas Ice! You can access the PDF transcript at this link where you will also find a link to the video or audio of the debate. My debate with Thomas Ice was on this question: “THE CHURCH WILL FACE THE ANTICHRIST BEFORE […]
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How Would It Prove Pretrib If APOSTASIA Refers to the Rapture? – Ep. 89
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(VIDEO) Audience Member Stumps Thomas Ice with Question at a Debate | Midwest Prophecy Conference, Calvary Chapel, Lafayette, IN
There was a recent debate at the pretrib 2017 Midwest Prophecy Conference, Calvary Chapel, Lafayette, IN: “Is the return of the Lord imminent?” between Dr. David Lehman and Dr. Tommy Ice. Both debate participants are pretrib; the former, however, denies imminence and attempted to argue that you can deny imminence and affirm pretribulationism. This is […]
The Greek Noun Apostasia Never Means a ‘Physical-Spatial Departure,’ e.g. the Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (Part 3) – Ep. 86
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/The_Greek_Noun_Apostasia_Never_Means_a_Physical_Spatial_Departure_part_3.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedI responded to this most common argument by those who think that the Greek noun apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 refers to the rapture. I explained that they have to define a noun by its cognate verb meaning. In lexical semantics this is called the cognate fallacy. […]
Circular Reasoning Presupposes the Hermeneutics of the Pretribulational Theological System
I am finishing up on my major book focused on refuting pretrib imminence. I do not leave any stone left unturned. My hope is it will jolt—and challenge—untold number of Christians who have been taught all their life that Jesus can return “at any moment.” This teaching is so pervasive that even most non-pretrib churches […]
The Gathering of the ‘Elect’ in Matthew 24:31 Does Not Refer to Israel — It Refers to All Believers from All the Nations – Ep. 56
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Review of My Radio Debate on Eschatology with Tommy Ice – Ep. 55
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/Review_of_My_Radio_Debate_on_Eschatology_with_Tommy_Ice.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedIn this episode I reviewed my recent radio debate on the rapture with Tommy Ice. I responded to Ice’s deeply mistaken view that church instruction in Jesus’ ministry began with the Upper Room Discourse and not before. I argued that the Olivet Discourse is a teaching for […]
Radio Debate on Moody Radio! Prewrath vs. Pretribulationism
You can listen now to the radio debate I had today with Dr. Tommy Ice on Moody Radio’s UP FOR DEBATE with Julie Roys. It went great. I came into the debate with the strategy of focusing on and demonstrating that Jesus’ Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24-25 is for the church, and not relegated to […]
My Post-Debate Commentary and Why Tommy Ice Failed to Support His Pretribulational Rapture – Ep 48
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/048-My_Post-Debate_Commentary_and_Why_Tommy_Ice_Failed_to_Support_His_Pretribulational_Rapture.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedI gave my post-debate commentary on my eschatology debate with Thomas Ice. I discussed the following topics that were covered in the debate and expanded on them here: -The celestial disturbances in Joel 2, Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Revelation 6 -Comparing Scripture with Scripture -What is […]
Red-Eye Moon
I took a red-eye flight to Jersey on my way back from the rapture debate in Dallas. I was able to catch the tail end of the super blood moon and I talked about one of my strategies for debating Thomas Ice this past weekend. Tracing the celestial disturbance event from Joel, the Olivet Discourse, […]
RAPTURE DEBATE between Alan Kurschner (Prewrath) and Thomas Ice (Pretrib) | AUDIO and VIDEO
Watch the debate here. Listen to my post-debate commentary Click here for a PDF transcript of the debate THE CHURCH WILL FACE THE ANTICHRIST BEFORE THE RAPTURE Affirmative: Alan Kurschner | Prewrath Denial: Thomas Ice | Pretribulational Moderated by Kerby Anderson The Hope Center, Plano, Texas September 25, 2015 Debate Format: Part 1: […]