According to pretrib logic, Israel is raptured at Rev 7:4. Of course I am being facetious with the title of this post, using absurdity to illustrate absurdity. The mere word Israel (Ἰσραήλ) is not found between Rev 7:4 and 21:12, so according to pretrib logic, if you apply the same standard to the word church, then you need […]
Imminence
Jesus’s Return Was Not Imminent During Peter’s LONG Life
Source (Update: I have been informed that further down the comments thread in the original fb page above, Dave James recognized that Jesus’s prophecy in John 21 was an issue that needed to be considered). John 21:18–19 states: “I tell you the solemn truth, when you were young, you tied your clothes around you […]
The Greek Word Apantēsis (Meeting) Does Not Mean ‘an Immediate Escort’ Back to Earth: A Response to Posttribulationism
“Then we who are alive, who are left, will be suddenly caught up together with them in the clouds to meet [apantēsis] the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.” (1 Thess 4:17) Recently, Michael Brown interacted with Mark Hitchcock on posttrib vs. pretrib. I thought Brown did well […]
A Response to the Criteria for Pretribulation Imminence – Ep. 132
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/A_Response_to_the_Criteria_for_Pretribulation_Imminence_-_Ep._132.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedIn this episode I responded to the flawed nature of four criteria that pretribulation interpreters use to determine if a Scriptural passage teaches imminence. Wayne A. Brindle gives four general criteria that have been used to establish imminence theology in pretribulation literature.[1] Incidentally, Brindle does not give […]
A Response to the Criteria for Pretribulation Imminence (Pt. 4 of 4)
(Here is Part 1, Part 2, Part 3) Finally, Wayne Brindle states in his fourth criterion for pretrib imminence: The passage speaks of Christ’s return as giving hope without relating it to God’s judgment of unbelievers.[1] This last criterion that pretribulationists use to argue for imminence is not only odd but simply mistaken. It is […]
A Response to the Criteria for Pretribulation Imminence (Pt. 3 of 4)
(Here is Part 1, Part 2) Next, Wayne Brindle states in his third criterion for pretrib imminence: The passage speaks of Christ’s return as something that gives believers hope and encouragement, without indicating that these believers will suffer tribulation.[1] Brindle’s third criterion indicates that the pretribulation notion of hope of Christ’s return is that Christians […]
A Response to the Criteria for Pretribulation Imminence (Pt. 2 of 4)
(Here is Part 1) The second criterion that pretribulationists operate from is: The passage speaks of Christ’s return as ‘near,’ without stating any signs that must precede His coming.[1] This is another form of circular reasoning that we saw in the first criterion. Brindle assumes that when an author mentions that Christ’s return is near, […]
James on the DELAY of Jesus’s Second Coming (Parousia) – Ep. 127
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/James_on_the_DELAY_of_Jesuss_Second_Coming_Parousia_-_Ep._127.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedJames contains a key passage on the delay of Jesus’s second coming and how to live in light of it. He received his teaching from the oral tradition of Jesus’s instruction of the Olivet Discourse, since there are several direct links with it. James’s teaching on the […]
Peter on the DELAY of Jesus’s Coming – Ep. 126
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/Peter_on_the_DELAY_of_Jesuss_Coming_Jan_Markell_Ep_126.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedPeter’s teaching on the delay of the parousia is consistent with Jesus’s teaching. This is not surprising since Peter was one of the main disciples that Jesus taught the Olivet Discourse to directly. In this episode, I covered what Peter taught on how we should order our […]
Does 1 Peter 1:13 Teach an ‘Any Moment’ Rapture?
Therefore, get your minds ready for action by being fully sober, and set your hope completely on the grace that will be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed. (1 Pet 1:13) Pretrib interpreters read this verse and assume that since Peter says “set your hope” on the grace that they will received at […]
A Striking Way How Pretribbers Reason Like Flat Earthers
The following is a snippet from my forthcoming book critiquing pretribulation imminence theology. I am citing pretrib teacher Wayne A. Brindle’s four criteria of interpretation determining if a passage contains imminence teaching. I cite here his second criteria and then I comment on it: “2. The passage speaks of Christ’s return as ‘near,’ without stating […]