Andy Gould has responded to a pretrib critique of prewrath on 2 Thessalonians 2 from Michael Nissim.
Apostasy
Use THIS Effective Strategy on Your Pretrib Friends for 2 Thessalonians 2:3! – Ep. 159
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https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/159-Use_this_strategy_2_thess_2.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed Dr. Kurschner explained how to use an effective strategy on your pretribulational friends concerning 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Many pretribulation interpreters attempt to argue that Paul in 2 Thess 2:3 teaches that the “apostasy” and “the revelation of the man of lawlessness” will happen “during” the day […]
The Greek in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Disproves the Pretribulation Rapture (Video)
Second Thessalonians chapter two has been the nemesis for pretribulationism. Or what I refer to as the 800-pound gorilla in the Bible of the pretribulationist. This biblical passage has convinced more ex-pretribulationists that their pretrib theology is wrong than any other Bible passage. The reason for this is straightforward: The fundamental premise of pretribulationism is […]
A Reply to Andy Woods on ‘APOSTASIA Is the Rapture’ – Ep. 104
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/A_Reply_to_Andy_Woods_on_APOSTASIA_Is_the_Rapture_-_Ep._104.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedAt a recent pretrib Bible prophecy conference, Andy Woods relied on the flawed research of H. Wayne House’s Greek statements, and worse, Woods used it with fallacious reasoning to attempt to argue that the “apostasy” Paul mentions in 2 Thess 2:3 refers to the rapture. I exposed […]
REVISITING THE QUESTION: Is the ‘Apostasy’ in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 a Reference to the Rapture?
I have addressed this question many times here and have shown that not only is there no evidence for this, but it is indicative of how many pretribs white-knuckle their pretrib Tradition. To be sure, there are many pretribs and some of their most noted theologians who think this is a really bad argument for […]
THE Apostasy Within the Church Will Come Through the Antichrist’s Mark of the Beast – Ep. 88
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/THE_Apostasy_Within_the_Church_Will_Come_Through_the_Antichrists_Mark_of_the_Beast.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed“Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not arrive until the rebellion [apostasia] comes and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.” (2 Thess 2:3 NET) In this episode, I first explained the larger context to the question of […]
The Greek Noun Apostasia Never Means a ‘Physical-Spatial Departure,’ e.g. the Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (Part 2) – Ep. 85
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/The_Greek_Noun_Apostasia_Never_Means_a__Physical-Spatial_Departure_Part_2.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedWe talked about lexical specifics showing that there is no evidence in Koine Greek literature where the Greek noun apostasia means a “physical or spatial departure.” There are some pretrib teachers who think apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 refers to “the rapture.” They assume that apostasia can […]
Reply to H. Wayne House on the Claim that APOSTASIA Can Mean ‘Spatial Departure’
In my public debate in the cross-examination period with Thomas Ice I honed in on the Greek noun apostastia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. I finally got him to admit in our cross-examination that he was incapable of producing a single document in all of Koine literature where apostasia means a “spatial departure.” (See the video […]
Does Apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Refer to a ‘Physical Departure’ (i.e. the Rapture)?
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion (apostasia) comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction – 2 Thessalonians 2:3 ESV (some versions render “rebellion” as “apostasy” or “falling away”) Second Thessalonians chapter two has been the nemesis for pretribulationism. […]
Apostasy and Perseverance – Can a Believer Lose Their Salvation?
God’s elect will not lose their salvation because God’s sovereign, decretive will perseveres the faith of his people. The eschatological warnings for believers not to apostatize function as a means by which God perseveres his people to the end. This topic often comes up in eschatological discussions (e.g. Can a true believer take the mark […]