I am amazed that many pretribulation teachers continue to white-knuckle believe that the Greek noun apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 refers to the rapture because they claim this Greek noun can mean “physical departure.” The problem is that the noun never means “physical departure” during the Koine Greek period. It means a religious or political […]
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Did Jerome in the Latin Vulgate Understand Discessio in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as ‘Defection’ or ‘Physical Departure’?
(This is a guest post by Dr. Dean Furlong) Latin Vulgate: “ne quis vos seducat ullo modo quoniam nisi venerit discessio primum et revelatus fuerit homo peccati filius perditionis” (2 Thess 2:3) I want to thank Dr. Alan Kurschner for inviting me to write a guest post on Jerome’s translation of the Greek word apostasia […]
How Did the Syriac Version Translate the Greek ‘Apostasia’ in 2 Thess 2:3?
Many pretribulationists believe that the Greek word apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 means “a physical departure” (i.e. the rapture). This claim has been thoroughly debunked many times (see the two articles at the end of this post). In Koine Greek, the word never means “a physical departure,” but rather “a non-physical departure,” either a political […]
A Response to Pastor J. D. Farag’s Misinformation on 2 Thess 2:3 Claiming that ‘Apostasia’ Refers to the Rapture (Video)
(*Send the following article to those who follow J. D. Farag) In the video below at 24:25, pastor J. D. Farag claims that since the Geneva Bible renders the Greek word apostasia as “departure” then that is proof that it is referring to “the rapture.” This is not only wrong on his part but it […]
The Greek GRAMMAR in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Supports Prewrath – Ep. 147
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/The_Greek_GRAMMAR_in_2_Thessalonians_23_Supports_Prewrath_-_Ep._147.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedDr. Kurschner demonstrated grammatical parallels in other New Testament passages to the grammatical construction found in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. This evidence clearly supports the prewrath position and contradicts pretribulationism. Pretribulational interpreters attempt to argue that Paul in 2 Thess 2:3 teaches that the “apostasy” and “the revelation […]
A Brief Reply to Arnold Fruchtenbaum on the Meaning of the Greek Noun Apostasia
Sometimes I am surprised to learn that pretrib teachers continue to perpetuate the lexical error that the Greek noun apostasia can refer to the sense of a “physical departure.” For example, just recently, Arnold Fruchtenbaum of Ariel Ministries stated: “However, the Greek word simply means ‘departure’. This could refer to a moral departure but it […]
Andy Woods ‘Replies’ to Me . . .
Just a quick note for those who were wondering if Andy Woods was interested in meaningful interaction with my podcast episode yesterday where I argued that Woods was making up a meaning for the Greek word apostasia, believing that it could mean a rapture in 2 Thess 2:3. Woods claimed that the Greek word could […]
What Andy Woods Is Not Telling You about ‘the Apostasy’ in 2 Thess 2:3 – Ep. 121
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/What_Andy_Woods_Is_Not_Telling_You_about_the_Apostasy_in_2_Thess_23_-_Ep._121.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedPretrib teacher Andy Woods recently evaded key arguments against his interpretation which claims “the apostasy” [apostasia] in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 refers to the rapture, and thus the pretribulation rapture. He was interviewed by Gary Stearman on Prophecy Watchers. “Let no one deceive you in any way. For […]
How Would It Prove Pretrib If APOSTASIA Refers to the Rapture? – Ep. 89
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/_How_Would_It_Prove_Pretrib_If_APOSTASIA_Refers_to_the_Rapture_ep_89.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedI talked about a deep-seated pretrib assumption that identifies the truth that the rapture occurs before the day of the Lord with the pretribulational rapture itself. It is not the same thing. The problem as I pointed out in this episode is that prewrath also believes that […]
THE Apostasy Within the Church Will Come Through the Antichrist’s Mark of the Beast – Ep. 88
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http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/THE_Apostasy_Within_the_Church_Will_Come_Through_the_Antichrists_Mark_of_the_Beast.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed“Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not arrive until the rebellion [apostasia] comes and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.” (2 Thess 2:3 NET) In this episode, I first explained the larger context to the question of […]
(VIDEO) Audience Member Stumps Thomas Ice with Question at a Debate | Midwest Prophecy Conference, Calvary Chapel, Lafayette, IN
There was a recent debate at the pretrib 2017 Midwest Prophecy Conference, Calvary Chapel, Lafayette, IN: “Is the return of the Lord imminent?” between Dr. David Lehman and Dr. Tommy Ice. Both debate participants are pretrib; the former, however, denies imminence and attempted to argue that you can deny imminence and affirm pretribulationism. This is […]